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Sascha Kalivoda On Pregnancy, Natural Birthing & Women’s Issues

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What a great show we had today with Sascha Kalivoda from In One Generation. She gave us the scoop on all things pregnancy. If you want to learn more about her product you can click here (affiliate link – helps to support our work).

She’s really out to help educate people about how deep nutrition and gut health plays a key role in helping to bring forth the next generation of adults.

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We discuss the following and so much more:

  • Caesarean sections – C-Sections (18:41)
  • Pre Natal Vitamins & Breast Feeding (26:05)
  • Deep Nutrition
  • Burping, Rashes, Colic, Tubes in the ears (33:53)
  • Morning sickness
  • Vaccinations (51:49)
  • Uterine fibroids & pregnancy
  • Ultrasounds, electromagnetic frequencies EMF (42:40)
  • And much more!

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Show Date: 8/29/2012
Show Guest: Sascha Kalivoda
Guest Info: For the last 20 years Sascha Kalivoda has pursued her passion in the areas of nutrition and wellness causing her to seek out the truth around nutrition, sort through the mis-information and share her findings through educating others.

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Topic: Pregnancy & Natural Childbirth
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JUSTIN: Thank you so much, everybody, for joining us on the 3rd edition of I am really excited about this. You can find this episode of Today is an awesome day and I’m really excited. It’s 80 degrees here in Southern California and I’ve got my green juice coming, so it’s going to be a really good day.

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I’m really excited about today’s guest, Sascha Kalivoda, and she has been researching health and nutrition for about 20 years, and I think most recently she has been interested in pregnancy, parenting and those types of issues, women’s issues. We are really excited to have Sascha on today. Thanks for joining us, Sascha.

SASCHA: I’m happy to be here and thanks for inviting me.

JUSTIN: No problem at all. Where are you calling from today? Where are you based out of?

SASCHA: I am in Calgary, Alberta, Canada.

JUSTIN: Oh nice, what’s the weather like up there?

SASCHA: It’s nice, it’s cooler today, but yesterday we were splashing in the pool, it was 30 degrees celsius, but I think we are going into a shift, getting ready for Fall.

JUSTIN: Great, so you have been interested in health and nutrition, as I read on you bio, for about 20 years?

SASCHA: Yeah, it has been a continuous process for me, and one that is never going to end, because there is always something new to learn. There is always some dogma to let go and new information to absorb into your life, but I became interested in it about 20 years ago, and have just kept on going.

JUSTIN: It’s interesting that, I think it was in the early 90s, the amount of shots that children received kind of went, you know, through the roof, as their vaccinations and things. It’s so interesting that in the last 10-15 years we have been seeing all these cases of autism, ADD, ADHD and childhood disorders. It’s like an epidemic these days.

SASCHA: It is. There are two things going on. There is the increase in the toxic load that our babies and young children are exposed to, and there is the decrease in nutrition. We are just not the happy and robust beings that we used to be, as our ability to deal with this is less than what it once was. We are getting hit from all sides, toxins in our food, air and personal care products and it’s directly ingested into our system. So, as adults, how can we expect anything different from what we’re seeing now. We just don’t have the capacity to deal with it.

JUSTIN: Right, it’s almost like our genes have become somewhat downgraded, or something. My wife was just telling me a couple of days ago that there are some people here in town, one of them was an 8-year old girl who died of a heart attack. I was just telling her that I feel like you sow what your reap, and we’re reaping all of this bad nutrition and women not breast feeding and all of this stuff. We’re not passing strong healthy genes down, are we?

SASCHA: We’re not. We really aren’t at all. I really don’t believe that Bruce Lipton tells us we are not victims of our genes. We are not predetermined to die of the diseases that our parents had, or grandparents had. With that being said, we do pass on our genes, whether they are going to be robust or sickly. There is a really interesting video that I just watched from U-Tube that took a little while ago where it proves without a doubt that even environmental factors can be inherited because we are infecting our genes by what we expose ourselves to and that can be passed on. It may be seen in the next generation or two, three generations down the line. So yeah, that the genes and the ability to maintain healthy robust life, you know to grow a healthy bone structure and strong teeth and just a strong constitution, but then there is also are immediate health that is affected by our day to day and things like our gut health and things what we got passed on by our, our mothers, mostly mothers, the fathers love but mostly the mothers and then what continues to get better or worse depending on how we’re fed once we come into this world and that is another major factor in the inability to digest our foo to suck nutrients from our food and really to detox any potential poisons that would be getting into our system.

JUSTIN: Yeah. Right. I think the gut health is the name of the game right, for people weather or not they’re going to have a child, but especially if they’re going to have a child. What do you think is, where do you see everything going if people don’t turn around, because I feel right now we are on the cusp of just starting to see the repercussions of not living a healthy life style for men and women having children probably 20, 30 years ago. If things keep going, it doesn’t look good does it?

SASCHA: It is scary because you and I, we’re still living on the back accounts that were created from our ancestors from our grand parents and our parents but I am blessed to have parents from eastern Europe who grew up eating very traditional foods and fermented foods and really whole unprocessed foods, so I have that benefit, where there’s some generations, you know third, fourth generation people here, and even more, who have grown up on a crap diet and their parents had already a………..antibiotics and anything that’s going to impact your gut health like a birth control pill and things like that and those are the ones that are even more sickly because the problem is it doesn’t show up right away in the next generation, it shows up two, three, four generations down the line so it’s true what you’re saying it’s scary where things are going because we don’t know what it looks like fourth generation down the line, what a person would look like if they are generationally passed down worse and worse genes and raised on worse and worse diet we don’t know what that looks like. We know what that looks like two, maybe three generations down the line. Normally it get progressively worse. So it’s our responsibility as parents and as temporary keepers of our genes, because that’s what we are. We don’t own our genes. We are just temporarily keeping them and hopefully taking care of them until we pass them on to the next generation. And we’re not doing that, we’re not taking responsibility for that and as such future generations are really suffering and it’s really unfortunate because it’s happened so quickly our health is downgraded so quickly, there’s been ten hundreds of thousands of years of healthy, robust life and the last hundred years it’s just getting worse. To the point you just said an eight year old died of a heart attack and this just shouldn’t be happening. Diabetes shouldn’t be happening in children, we shouldn’t see obese young kids running around wearing, you see their blubber hanging out you know, I was at the pool yesterday like I said and I am seeing kids that just aren’t healthy and to hear that one dies of a heart attack it not surprising. Yeah. It’s really unfortunate.

JUSTIN: Yeah, I’m not really sure where this is all going, but if you are interested in Sascha and what she’s got to say, check out her website, it’s and consider following her on Facebook and Twitter as well. We have links on this show page to do that, so I highly recommend you do that.

Sometimes when I eat, I typically try to make sure that I always eat healthy and am always putting something in my body that is going to serve me and not have the opposite effect. I think that it might serve people, if they’re going to have a child, to think about the next time they’re going to sit down and have some ice-cream or something like that, to think about how that ice-cream can effect the health of your child that you have in two years. Right?

SASCHA: Absolutely, two years, or the good news is, you can make your own ice-cream at home with raw beautiful egg yolks from pastured hens and raw milk from pastured cows, with some raw honey in there with some beautiful vanilla and things like that. We don’t have to go without and we don’t have to deprive ourselves. It’s really much the opposite, as a lot of the foods that we control has been forbidden. In my opinion, it’s all about the source. Where did it come from? What kind of life did that animal have and what soil was it’s food growing in. Did you pull it out of your garden in your backyard. There are ways to really enjoy life, and I truly believe that I eat food that I love. I love the food that I eat. It’s just about deep deep nutrition.

JUSTIN: Yeah, and I think that it might help people to just get a little understanding about how your food effects you. Most people think, ‘oh I just want to lose 10 lbs and if I lose 10 lbs I can fit in my bikini and go to the beach, and things like that. But I think it’s important to have that deeper perspective of how your foods are altering your genes and how your genes can be altered from that when you have a child.

I want to talk a little bit about one of the main things to consider, which is the nutrition of a person while they are pregnant, as well as the nutrition they take before pregnancy. I think they might be slightly different, and I think you may be able to shed some light on that. And then, maybe we could talk about a little bit of nutrition for the child, what you would feed the child and what you would eat for breast feeding and things like that. So, what, in an ideal world, are some foods that people should avoid and what should they consider adding into their diet during pregnancy?

SASCHA: Okay, I want to tell you just one thing. With all this doom and gloom with where we are going, the good news is that we can do a lot to change the course of that future. So, it’s up to us to take responsibility and take the time to learn and incorporate these things into our lives. It’s not all law, and we can change things pretty quickly if we decide to do so.

JUSTIN: Right.

SASCHA: That starts with paying attention to our own health and getting our body ready for pregnancy. The thing is, we don’t give it a second thought when you look at traditional society. We should prepare a year, sometimes two years, in advance for pregnancy, and eat very specific foods to prepare their bodies and maintain their pregnancy, and to re-nourish their bodies after pregnancy. Because if we really don’t think about nutrition when we have our kid and mainly think ‘okay, it’s been a year or a year and a half, so now it’s time to have another one’, without any thought as to how that breast milk has depleted the body, without thinking about how making that being inside your body has depleted the body. So we really much replenish that so that we can give birth to another healthy robust life and not just progressively give birth if we decide to have more and more children.

So, my thoughts on nutrition have really changed over the years and if you had asked me this question a few years ago, I would have given you a very different response. In my own life, I had gone through almost 20 years of being a vegetarian, largely vegan for most of that, to now completely the opposite. I did that as a result of really stopping and looking at the way I was aging.

I never knew how I was going to eat around pregnancy, and now I know, I would have done it a little bit differently, had I have gotten into the studies I do now.

But, it’s about the nourishing foods that we have been told not to eat or a lot of the things that we throw away. Things like animal fat and whenever I’m having lunch with people there’s always talk about organic, free range, pastured, minimally processed, raw when it comes to dairy and things like that, if possible. So, we’re looking at things that nourish the body and we’re looking at things that contribute to creating a healthy brain and a healthy nervous system. These are things like cholesterol, and things like choline and really good quality animal fat, and yes, this is saturated fat. Things like lard and butter, fish eggs and wild fish. The most nutrient dense food that you can possibly eat is liver. I was blessed to be raised on liver, although I hated every minute of it when I was growing up. We have it once a week and my son cries for it every time it’s cooking and is not ready yet. We have that about once a week and we really enjoy. It is such a nutrient dense food. These are the kinds of foods that I’m talking about. I’m not talking about, you know, eating a whole (inaudible) but we can do that, but we also have to look at not only the types of food, but how we prepare our food. Are we soaking and fermenting our grains before we cook them, as they have a lot of natural nutrients that take away from our nutrition if we don’t do so. Are we eating our fruits and vegetables, which is really important to, but we maybe should look into getting some more wild foods into our diet, especially compared to the more conventionally grown fruits and vegetables that we buy in the supermarket.

Really, my focus is on the really heavy foods and foods that we’re afraid of, because we’ve been told we are going to have a heart attack, which is absolutely the opposite. And then, getting into fermented foods. This is why we’re talking about healthy lineage. It is an especially important part of getting ready for pregnancy and maintaining pregnancy, because your child will be cultured at birth. The bacteria that they get cultured with is what is in the mom and what’s in the mom’s vaginal canal and what is in her system. So, if she has pathogenic bacteria when the baby is starting of, that is a really bad start of life. It can lead to all sorts of problems which can progressively get worse. You really only have one chance to do it right, by getting your gut health in order and then having your baby.

JUSTIN: Would you consider, if someone was about to get pregnant, would doing things like restoring your gut health, healing your intestinal lining, eating probiotic foods and maybe doing some cleansing. Is that something that you would want to consider before getting pregnant?

SASCHA: Absolutely, and you want to give a lot more time to that. I’m talking about a year to two years. Some people have really compromised gut health. You know, they’ve had Crohns, Colitis or Celiac and all sorts of allergies and asthma, and maybe they even have some learning disabilities. All of these things are related to gut health and sometimes they can take up to two years to reseal back up. With that being said, you can do a lot in a few months to a year, but to really restore the integrity of that gut lining, for some it can take a lot longer and for some not so much. It just depends on your history and what you were born with. You don’t want to do any kind of cleansing when you’re pregnant. If you want to safely get rid of heavy metals in your system or cleansing out the ‘bad estrogens’ and things like that, you would want to do that ahead of time, and then you want to spend a good amount of time really focusing on fermented foods and probiotics, restorative foods and really nutrient dense foods. You want to give that a good six months to a year, to really build the body and restore it. I mean, we can get away from people who don’t have that foresight or don’t have the time, for whatever reason, but just doing the best that you can with that. But in an ideal situation, in my opinion, cleanse and get rid of the stuff that doesn’t need to be there, or shouldn’t be there, and build, build, build.

JUSTIN: Right, so ideally, during pregnancy, would it be okay to do a lot of the fermented foods as well, like sauerkraut and kefir and stuff like that.

SASCHA: Absolutely, because you want to maintain gut health. We’re always exposed to things that are going to be challenging the integrity of the gut, no matter what good habits we have, unless we’re living out in the middle of nowhere in a clean environment, and I’m not sure if that really exists anywhere anymore. Absolutely, it’s absolutely key, the fermented tea and the sauerkraut. Get used to making your own sauerkraut, and if you don’t have time, then purchase the unpasteurized kind that is so active, for probiotically speaking. That is key. It will initiate a bit of cleansing, as that’s what the foods do, but, in the end, it is definitely going to be better for the baby. You just don’t want to do hard core cleansing if you have a major reaction. You would want to pull back a little bit so that the baby is not exposed to too much.

JUSTIN: I think, a few minutes ago, you mentioned something about c-sections, or maybe I’m just looking at my list of things to ask you. I have heard that there is a certain amount of bacteria in women’s guts that, when their child is birthed naturally, they swallow a lot of that bacteria in the birth canal. If you do a c-section, the child is sort of robbed of that beneficial bacteria. Is that true? Do you know about that?

SASCHA: Yes absolutely. C-sections have a huge impact in the gut health of the baby, and it robs them of the experience of coming through the birth canal and having the part in that role of coming into this world, which we all evolve to expect. It’s like a butterfly that needs to break out of that chrysalis, otherwise it won’t fly. So, I feel that we need to be coming through that birth canal. Also, that’s exactly what happens. Like I say, we become cultured at birth, coming through the birth canal with that beneficial bacteria. We have more bacteria cells in our body than we have body cells. You cannot have optimal health without the right bacteria. It’s just not possible.

JUSTIN: I have heard so much about c-sections and seeing people get them done. I know it’s not natural, and I don’t know if they are sometimes necessary, but I know there are scars that come from that. And the scars block energy fields in the body, so I think there are a lot of issues that can happen from c–sections.

When we come back, I want to talk a little bit about breast feeding and why that is maybe coming back and more into vogue these days. And, I have some other questions as well. So, we’ll be right back.

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JUSTIN: Thanks a lot Sascha for joining us today and we really really appreciate this.

SASCHA: Thank you.

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SASCHA: When that whole program came, it was not intended. When I first had my son I intended to just focus on being a mama and this is what I was going to do. I started my research when I was pregnant and this was really big and important. I felt I needed to research what I needed to research for a healthy and well-adjusted life. You don’t see that very much these days. I did a lot of research even prior to pregnancy and then even more so after I became pregnant, and continued to do so once my son was born. What I really started noticing after I had my son, I gave a lot more attention to how people parent, and even while I was pregnant, just listening to people’s views on pregnancy and childbirth. In general, they are not so healthy and not so positive. We have really come to see this as an intravenous or something that can be taken care of with some drugs or some procedures and things like that, and what we’re not understanding is that all these things we’re adding in and what we never used to do, are having lifelong repercussions. And then we raise our children in certain ways and taking advice from our friends or our parents and we don’t really know. We think we are doing things out of love, and don’t get me wrong, I believe that we are mostly doing things out of live, but, at the same time, we are doing things that are harming our kids and we don’t even know it. So, I just wanted to put this together and put the course out there, because people need to know that this is not (inaudible) information. It’s a lot information that’s not me, it’s old information. My goal was to get it out there into the mainstream, because it’s really not a secret how to create healthy and well-adjusted people.

JUSTIN: Right.

SASCHA: My goal is for parents to bring in healthy and well-adjusted people, and healthy and well-adjusted from the beginning. You know, speaking about health, seminars and books and asking ‘why can’t I be healthier, and why am I like this’ . How any people do you know who are happy and healthy and robust? Fewer and fewer from what I’ve seen. So, I realized that I could do something here, and I did.

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I wanted to talk to you a little bit about breast feeding and pre-natal vitamins. What are those things? I’m new to all of this information. Are these just vitamins that your doctor gives you during pregnancy, that are supposedly supposed to be healthy for you?

JUSTIN: Yes, supposedly. It all depends on where they’re coming from. Those pre-natal vitamins that they give to women are a false sense of alal bases covered. Especially those who aren’t educated about nutrition and they will go to their local pharmacy or their local Costco and get the value-pack of pre-natal vitamins. That is really not going to cover it and most of that isn’t even absorbed. So, when it comes to pre-natal vitamins, I do recommend that people take one, but the most important thing is to take them before they get pregnant, because what a lot of the pre-natal vitamins do is to set the stage for the first few weeks of a healthy development, so we’re looking at extra folic acid and things like that and other nutrients. You have to look at the quality, so if you can find a fermented product, all the better, and whole food product where you are getting the nutrients from food. But, it’s not a substitute and it’s not an excuse to not focus on healthy, whole nourishing food day to day. That’s really where the most nutrition is going to come from. And you know, there was a time where there we no pre-natal vitamins. People came out whole and healthy and a lot stronger than they are today.

So, really the key is to look at what your overall diet is and just take a pre-natal vitamin on top of that, but the focus is the food.

JUSTIN: Right. I completely agree and I think that maybe some of those vitamins that are really solid, like a compressed tablet, may not be easily digestible and I think, like you said, eating a healthy diet and doing some really healthy whole food vitamins might be the way to go.

What about breast feeding? It seems like it’s coming more back into vogue. It’s absolutely critical, right?

SASCHA: Absolutely. And what you say is true, it is coming back into vogue, for a while there it was pooh poohed. My mom tells me the story that when I was born. I was born in a hospital, but she tells me that a nurse with me and a bottle and my mom said ‘what’s that for’ and she said ‘to feed your baby’ and my mom said ‘no, no, no, my bottle is right here’. Thank goodness my mom did this. Yes, again that’s where you’re getting the good bacteria. Nature is intelligent and breast milk is perfectly formulated to support that healthy quickly developing being, and it will change over time as the baby grows, it’s content will be adjusted. It’s the most important thing to be doing. The thing is, breast feeding isn’t just nutrition, it is emotional health, it’s skin to skin contact which puts cortisone in the body, and allows for more potential for intelligence. It reduces stress in the baby and they are able to put their energy into growth and development and not protection. It provides for that security of knowing that I’m right in this world and I’m getting what I deserve. There is so much more that comes along with breast feeding than just the nutrition, but the nutrition is huge. It is the key to prevention of all these allergies, asthma and all these other issues that are going on here. You cannot reformulate breast milk, and certainly in commercial formulas, there is just no match for it. Granted, there are a few cases where a woman isn’t able to breast feed and I’m not trying to put any jokes out there, or anything like that, so if you really can’t do it, then you need to do your best. But I would recommend going to the Weston Price site and making your own. You can make something yourself that is a lot more nutrient dense than you can just from any can or package from the store.

Breast feeding is so important, not just for a few months, six months or even a year. Maybe two years and maybe longer. In today’s society, the average breast feeding is a lot longer, maybe three years to even, in some instances, ten years. Because it fulfills so many more needs than just eating. Yes, it is coming back and there is an awareness around it that is really really happy to see, but we had a really messed up attitude towards it unfortunately in our part of the world, where we find it almost indecent, especially breast feeding in public.

It took breast feeding moms to make it normal and make it something that we’re just used to seeing. So, get out there and just breast feed, because feeding your baby is the most natural thing we can do and our babies deserved to be fed when they’re hungry, wherever you are. You can’t time them, you can’t schedule them, and when they need breast milk it’s your job as a breast feeding mama to provide that. In traditional society you’re supposed to cover up because it’s indecent. How could that be, it’s ludicrous. And here we are, where in certain public places they’re not allowing it and people are looking down on it, and we’re covering up and all sorts of things. Whereas, they just should make it normal and acceptable and something that people don’t question, because that’s just the way things are.

JUSTIN: Yes, I completely agree. I’m not really sure who is causing the problem in terms of feeling like it’s indecent or something. I feel like maybe it’s the men, but nothing could be more natural than doing that. I think that what a lot of people don’t know, but I believe the immune system of the baby is basically downloaded during that time of getting breast milk, right?

SASCHA: Absolutely, 80% of the immune system is in our gut. Again, I keep on coming back to gut health, as I cannot tell you how important it is. Anything from autism, ADD, dyslexia and all of these things are related to the gut. We need to see that our babies have a healthy gut from the beginning. Yes, the immune system is developing over the first few months of life, and if we’re not providing that, it’s going to be at risk. It’s going to be certainly not anywhere near the potential that it could be in strength. All the immune health is coming from mama at that time. Mom’s immune system is important and the quality of her gut bacteria and the quality of her immunity. So regardless, even if she’s not as healthy as she could be, the baby is still benefiting from that.

JUSTIN: I wanted to ask you as well, what are your thoughts on, maybe you could touch briefly on some of these subjects. A lot of the things that I see in women giving birth today, and am not really sure if they’re normal, I’m really not, but things like burping your child, the rashes they get, the colic, tubes in their ears and all of these types of things. Morning sickness during pregnancy, and some of that is probably normal, but I feel like what we see in our culture today a lot of it is abnormal. Is that true, do you think?’

SASCHA: Absolutely, I would agree with you 100%. Things that are common in our society, but they are not normal. They are common, yes.
Colic, you just come to expect that, it is just something that is an unexplained thing. The baby cries for three hours in a row every single night and you just have to deal with it. That is really unfortunate and again, is coming from our gut health and from their inability to digest. Burping is another one that’s really interesting. There is a great book called ‘The Continuum Concept by Jean Liedloff, and I actually interviewed her two months before she died a couple of years ago. She wrote this great book about continuum parenting basically, and what does it look like. Our babies weren’t being burped. For us to think that what we are seeing here that babies cannot digest, just doesn’t make any sense. How many other babies in nature are getting burped after they’re fed? They are just not. So that’s why we have to take a look at what we’re doing. Did I burp my son? Well, very little, but I did once in a while. Are you familiar with muscle testing or kinesiology?


SASCHA: What we did in our own state, in our own case, we must have muscle tested all the foods that I was eating before I was going to eat them, if they were something new, and I had a list of foods that I was eating at the time I was breast feeding. Some things I thought were totally benign, but I could tell there was a little bit of digestive distress in my son. We muscle tested him. I had to remove things like cucumbers, pears and yams, garlic and onions, but as soon as I took those things out, wham, it was gone. We kept on muscle testing and then, one on one, we tried to bring them back in again and if he tested weak, we didn’t. If he tested strong, I did every single time, it was amazing. My diet was effecting him and everyone’s diet is effecting their baby. Mothers will tell you that if they eat something they will notice some distress. The average person is eating so many things that can be causing problems that they don’t even know where to start. It’s so new to them to be eating a different way, and top of being a new parent in the beginning and then working with your diet, is one of the hardest things to do for a lot of people. So they don’t do anything and are not told by their traditional health care practitioners that these things can be helped through diet. They just don’t know and our babies suffer.

JUSTIN: Right, and I’ve seen people who think that if I drink some alcohol after I’ve given birth and I’m breast feeding, they think ‘as long as I wait a couple of hours, I’ll be okay’. What if your immune system is allergic to a certain food, and you’re passing that onto your child. If you wait a couple of hours is not going to help the baby.

SASCHA: Alcohol is supposed to get out of your system in a certain amount of time, but I can’t remember exactly what that is. In the early days, really I recommend that you just stay away from it. Although we have very different attitudes towards alcohol. Some people won’t even take tinctures with alcohol because of that, but I think we can take that too far. When I look at when I was pregnant, I spent half of my pregnancy traveling in Europe. Look at what the average Italian and French women do while they are pregnant, and they average one to two glasses of wine a day during pregnancy. So, I didn’t do that, of course, but there are always extremes either way. Actually, if we’re eating things that we’re allergic to, we are going to be not only not digesting them properly, we’re going to have things in our system that cause us distress and that will be passed onto our babies, for sure. For certain is the thing that even when we know often that we have the inability to digests certain foods, we still do it, and that causes problems and everybody suffers.

JUSTIN: Let me run this little commercial here, and I want to ask you, when we get back, about morning sickness and another couple of issues like that, as well as getting your opinion about ultrasounds and EMF radiation. It seems like it’s all going back to the gut of the father and the mother, and we will talk more about that as well. We’ll be right back.
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Okay Sascha, I just wanted to ask you about things like ultrasounds and electromagnetic radiation (EMF) and things like that. What is your opinion about how these can effect the development of the fetus?

SASCHA: Oh, that’s a big one. I think this is a very big experiment that we are exposing ourselves to these days. You know, there’s one thing to add to the toxic foods and things like that, but they don’t talk about EMF and we are energy beings. They are messing with our systems. As I talk to you right now, I have my foot on the ground because I cannot be on my laptop without it, as I am really sensitive to it. It makes me grounded, which is the way we protect ourselves from the EMF, so that we are basically connected with the earth through actually standing barefoot on the earth or having grounding products. The development of the fetus .do we know exactly what that does. We don’t really now, but I think we’re going to find out. We do know that it can really cause part of a burning problem and things like that. So, what I recommend for women who are pregnant, and even prior, to get in contact with the earth as much as possible. Standing in a body of water, getting your bare feet on the ground, sleeping on the ground with sheets. Get grounded when you’re using your computer. Keeping your cell phone off of you, getting rid of your cell phone, at least using it on speaker phone when you are pregnant, because you are a conductors and it’s going right to your baby. How is that going to impact them. Do I know exactly, not that I know of at the moment, but I do know it is going to cause problems because, guess what, cell phones cause cancer, cell phones cause brain cancer. Well, if it’s causing brain cancer in us, it is obviously going to effect the developing fetus.

When it comes to ultrasounds, that is another one. I didn’t do any ultrasounds at all. I chose not to. It’s a really scary thing, ultrasounds have become entertainment. Now we can do these really high definition ultrasounds to see what’s going on. We invite people to come and watch. It has been shown, when you look at an ultrasound you look at a baby. Why is it hard to find the baby? It’s because they keep moving away from that ultrasound. It’s very loud for them in there and it can also cause heating and heating of the brain. It is supposed that they can cause things like autism or brain cell mental issues and things like that. So, is it going to change the outcome, whatever you see there. A lot of times we also potentially find something that may be wrong with the child. We have this very stressful pregnancy which is impeding the growth and development of your baby, and then everything turns out to be fine in the end. And then, if they find something, is it going to change what they do in the end? Are you going to terminate your pregnancy? If it doesn’t change the outcome, why are you getting it in the first place? For whatever reason, they have programmed to need to be able to see that.
Although hearing that heartbeat for the first time is the most amazing thing in the world. Even when you know you are pregnant and you finally get the chance to hear that heartbeat, it’s amazing.

There is a great magazine called Pathways (can’t remember what the complete title is) but it’s a great magazine to help create a healthy, well-adjusted robust life. There was a great article, sometime back, about the dangers of ultrasounds.

JUSTIN: I think a lot of people just don’t realize, just because you can’t see the radiation coming off of something. Like I’m sitting here as well, grounded on a pad. I see women holding cell phones right on their belly, and seeing this kind of stuff, what I’ve heard could be something to do with how the child’s brain is not completely developed, the radiation breaks down the blood brain barrier, which causes issues in the brain.
I don’t know, I just think that anything that’s not natural may be something that could come back to bite us.

SASCHA: We do know that there are issues. When your developing fetus or when your child is brand new, the impact is only going to be heightened. They are going to be more susceptible to the negative to any of the negative impact. We really need to pay attention to that, because kids are growing up with cell phones. This is another serious thing. That brain is quickly developing and growing and it’s constantly being exposed to cell phone radiation all the time. It’s a scary thing and I think we’re going to see, in the future, it’s just going to be a major impact around things like genetically modified food and I think those are two big ones that we’re really playing with fire with.

JUSTIN: I think you are on to something there, and I think the EMF, in 20 years from now, is going to be what smoking was 20 years ago. Possibly.
What do you think about morning sickness? Is it normal to get morning sickness to some degree, and if it’s not, what is a good way to kind of offset that?

SASCHA: Always getting yourself as healthy as possible in the beginning. That’s what we’re not doing. We are not healthy in the beginning and we don’t have a healthy diet and we don’t have a healthy immune system. We are just not healthy. So, whatever you can do to support that in the beginning, things like incorporating super-foods into your diet. You know, things like herbal infusions, fats and bone broth,medicinal mushrooms, good quality organ meats, vegetables and fruits. These are the things that nourish us and make us strong and vibrant, and grounding, that’s one of the big things, and good water.

When it comes to morning sickness, for some people I do believe it’s because they haven’t taken care of their health to some degree. There could be other factors that some people may, or may not, be open to, that might not be nutritionally related, like more spiritual type things, or more energetic type things. Maybe they are just not ready, or they apprehension around it, or something else going on. We won’t get into that too much, but when somebody is dealing with morning sickness, I have a friend who is pregnant right now, who went an easy pregnancy the first time, but this time she is really sick. There are a couple of things I recommended to her and of them was getting more magnesium into her diet. She bought some magnesium and that’s what made her morning sickness go away. We are often low on Vitamin-B6, so we should bring B6 into the diet, that’s another great thing for morning sickness, or ginger, making your own ginger tea. Just chopping up a bunch of fresh ginger and putting it into some water and letting it boil a little bit and drinking that down. Also, there are homeopathic remedies for morning sickness as well, so you might want to look at your specific symptoms and chose one that’s right for you.

Also, for some people, I had one friend who needed to have something by the bedside to eat a little bit before she got up in the morning. Because it was her empty stomach. It’s kind of a viscous circle. You feel sick and you don’t want to eat, and then when you don’t eat it exacerbates morning sickness. So, just make sure you are well-nourished and have food in hour system right from the beginning.

There are some things that can be very helpful because often it’s an indication that there is a deficiency in your system.

JUSTIN: It’s interesting, because once again, those subjects we talked about earlier, where it’s so common in our culture, but it may not be normal. Maybe that falls into that category. There is tons that we could talk about, but I wanted to talk a little bit about, before we go, vaccinations. Some of the ways we could possibly get around having our kids vaccinated, or, if they are vaccinated, things we could do to help insure they are still healthy afterwards.

SASCHA: The number one thing is being informed. Everybody has an opinion on it, but how many of them are actually doing their research and really looking at the full picture? You know, it is a really controversial subject, but it needs to be discussed. Because, like you said, the list has grown astronomically in the last generation or two. It’s ridiculous what we’re ingesting into our children and we think that’s okay. How could that be okay, rather than nourishing them and providing all that our systems need to have a healthy immune system. It’s not the disease necessarily, or the bacteria that’s causing the problem in us, it’s our inability to deal with it. Right? Our weakened immune systems, our weakened bacterial healthy and our pathogenic way of living really. For me, I chose not to vaccinate and that could be one of the best things I could do for my child. But, if I were to vaccinate, this is where the thing comes in. We have the vaccine autism link and the missing piece of that is the gut health.
Again, we are coming back to gut health. We don’t have the ability to deal with all the toxins that are in our system, because we don’t have the bacteria in there that can deal with it. That bacteria can clean up the oil spill. It can do amazing things, but if we don’t have the right balance of good to bad, pathogenic bacteria, then we cannot deal with what’s going on in our systems. We already have a gut infection because we don’t have the right balance of bacteria, and then that leads to blood infection and it leads to brain infection when we get our vaccines. Because we just don’t have the ability to deal with it. And, that’s why we have things like autism and things like that, because we cannot physically deal with it. We are already giving a weakened child more to deal with, way more than they can actually deal with.

The good news is that you can actually reverse these things and you can often heal it. The sooner you get to it the better. There is a great book out there called Gut and Psychology Syndrome, by Dr. Natasha Campbell- McBride. Her son was diagnosed to be severely autistic when he was three years old, and now, as a young teenager, he is completely and totally normal, social and able to learn, just a normal child who you would have thought never had autism, as a result of her healing protocol that she developed, and put into place with her son and many other families.

There is also Donna Gates of the Body Ecology Diet who is doing the same thing, and they have a lot of overlap in their approaches to dealing with gut health and recovering children from autism and other disabilities and issues.

So, the vaccines are scary. I mean you have to follow the money, right? Who is benefiting from the vaccines? It is unfortunate that our children are the victims of that.

JUSTIN: Right. We are going to have Mary Tocco on the show on Friday, who talks about vaccinations and things like that. Are there any books that you would recommend that people could take a look at, that might educate them on some of these subjects?

SASCHA: Yes, there are, but do you think I can think of any right now?
One of the easiest things that I would do, would be to go onto Youtube and search for Donna Gates and Dr. Natasha Campbell-McBride, or better yet, go to my website, and I have a blog post called ‘The Connection Between Your Gut And Your Baby’s Brain’. In that, I have posted the interview with Donna Gates and Dr. Natasha Campbell- McBride, explaining all this very clearly. The reasons for why our children are becoming autistic at such and increasing rate and how we can deal with it. Not only that, we are going to deal with the colic at the same time, the ear infections and all that stuff, because it’s about restoring the integrity of the gut, with sauerkraut, fermented foods, fermented vegetables and fermented beverages and things like that. Also, the healing foods, the bone broth and the animal fat and things like that.

JUSTIN: Yes, are you familiar with Susun Weed? She’s an herbalist and she has a lot of stuff on women’s issues and things like that.

SASCHA: Yes, I interviewed her a few months ago, actually.

JUSTIN: Great, she is amazing, and also Natasha Campbell-McBride is just amazing. Her website I think is called for gut and psychology syndrome. Very quickly, I know we’re running out of time, but I wanted to get your opinion about uterine fibroids. A lot of women have these issues and sometimes their doctors scare them into getting surgery for them, and scare them into thinking that if they get pregnant there’s going to be issues. Are there issues with uterine fibroids, in your opinion?

SASCHA: I know people who have had them and have had healthy pregnancies and babies, but, at the same time, it all comes back to taking care of your own health before getting pregnant, before you have any children. What we have read about uterine fibroids, is having all sorts of PMS and all sorts of issues. You know, these are the hormonal related types of things. You have to look at what are the foods that we’re eating. Pesticides laden foods that are full of xeno-estrogen. These are the chemical estrogens that cause the hormonal imbalances that we have. All of these mood swings and PMS, and when we are older we have all sorts of issues around our menopause and things like that. Then, it also leads to a much more difficult pregnancy. So, we have to look at what are we putting into our bodies, what kind of chemical toxic sludge you are covering yourself with every day, what are you washing clothes with and what kind of fragrances are you breathing in every day. What kind of pans are you cooking your food in. What kind of storage containers are you putting your foods in, especially oily foods and acidic foods. We have these chemical estrogens everywhere and they are causing all of these problems, uterine fibroids and things like that. With that being said, you can definitely do a lot about that. One thing that I really recommend is going for acupuncture and doing some Chinese herbs, specifically for that. This can really be helpful so much, and it’s just adjusting the diet and doing cleansing. One of my favorite things to cleanse is fermented foods that really supports the liver and detox the liver, which in turn would be to detox all those bad estrogens out of the system. Even drinking kombucha will do tons, water kefir, milk kefir and eating sauerkraut and all these wonderful and delicious fermented foods. These are all perfect for restoring gut health, detoxing the body and restoring hormonal balance. These are a huge part in restoring hormonal balance. That is just a symptom, something that is out of balance.

JUSTIN: Yes, I’ve heard a lot about the xeno-estrogens and the estrogens that are causing those types of things. I think it’s something that women will have to start looking at, as well as men.

As a final little bit to this show here, where do you see yourself going? What kind of work are you going to be doing and what kind of things are you working on?

SASCHA: I have lots of things I’m working on. Right now, I have launched the new revolution of the home party where I do something called ‘nutrition with your neighbors’ and I am really getting into people’s homes, having them invite people over. We’re making sauerkraut, kombucha and bone broth together and I’m letting people know that it’s inexpensive, easy and you can do it. It’s wisdom that we can pass on to our children as we’re not passing much wisdom on these days. And it’s medicine, true true medicine, so this is one thing that I’m really excited about. We’re having a lot of fun getting there and just bringing it to people so that they can feel empowered and bring it into their own homes and start really healing their own families a bit, you know, ignoring maybe their doctor, but not ignoring their health, so that they’re really just taking it all into their own hands.

I still have to finish up one part of the course there, that you have been so great in supporting, and that’s one part that I am really glad I waited with, get it to the nutrition portion, as my approach and my philosophy and my own practice of nutrition has really changed a lot in the last few years. Just more online products and just helping people in whatever way I can. One on one nutritional consultations and that sort of thing.

JUSTIN: People can find all that information on your website, which is and she has all sorts of blog posts about this subject we talked about today, so make sure to check out her site.

As well, if you are on this page, listening to this interview, we have links to her Facebook and Twitter account and things like that. So if you are interested in this kind of stuff, make sure you follow Sascha, as she is always posting really helpful information about pregnancy, women’s issues and things like that.

With that said, thank you so much Sascha for joining us today. I really appreciate that.

SASCHA: Thank you. I really appreciate the chance to be here. Thanks Justin.

JUSTIN: No problem. I hope you really enjoyed this show, as that was pretty awesome stuff. You can check out her products again, if you are interested, at, and again, follow her work. I think it’s really important that we start getting a handle on the nutrition we’re giving to our children and what we’re doing to prepare for pregnancy.

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